Go to the above site and skim through some of the reading material. Try 'A Reporter in Subud' or 'Assignment in Subud' for some really ridiculous ramblings by Pak Subuh on a variety of subjects. Follow up that with some gleanings from ' Inner Wisdom' and 'The Mystical World of Java' by Prio Hartono( Paks first Helper) and you will really see the influences behind Pak Subuhs teachings and ramblings. I cant believe I really used to swallow this stuff!
Latest little gem from Pak Subuh, quote ' We really NEED Satan as he helps us get money. If we chased away all the devils we would be broke in 10 days. Thats because the devils bring us money"( Page 67-68 from 'A Life within a Life' by Dominic CH Rieu on the same online website)
Poor people who actually believe this stuff. No wonder they end up with severe mental problems. I get a headache just researching this stuff. God bless all and have a great week.
Saturday, July 25, 2009
Tuesday, July 21, 2009
Are there any Bible believing Christians in Subud?
Have you ever come across bible believing Christians in Subud? No, you wont find any because they are not there! That is because they do not need a contact with God. They already HAVE one! They have been born again by the Spirit of God and have a brand new inner man dwelling inside of them who is created after the image of He who made it, GOD. They have the Spirit of JESUS CHRIST dwelling in them. This SPIRIT called the HOLY SPIRIT has ALL authority here on earth. They have an inner man who has an entirely NEW NATURE. The latihan does not do this. In fact according to scripture the latihan is a spirit that is residing in the 'old man' or sin nature of man. It has no power to deliver from sin. It does have power to DECEIVE the mind though. But when it comes into contact with the HOLY SPIRIT it's power is BROKEN. The latihan and Subud will fade away like so many man made things but the Word of the TRUE Living God of the Bible will STAND FOREVER and of His Kingdom there will be NO END .
Thursday, July 16, 2009
There must be a lot of exsubud people out there.I wonder what they are doing. To a lot of people leaving Subud is no problem. Easy come and easy go they think. But to the people who take Bapak seriously and what he said it's not that easy. In fact it's a nightmare!
What if you really believed Bapak and what he said the latihan was? I mean he said the latihan was from GOD and that he was the FULFILLMENTt of Jesus and Muhammed. Thats a pretty awesome thing to say! I mean when Jesus came and did all those miracles, healing and raising people from the dead and taught that amazing teaching and died and rose again, wouldn't you have believed Him too?
So it's pretty hard for sincere people who don't know anything else. Even if they have problems they just soldier on through. But what about people who can't do that? People who's lives collapse because they can't bear the anguish caused by a lack of the REAL thing.
When you do hear about the REAL thing, it's a real release. When you hear Jesus took it all for you it's a real relief! You know you'll never be perfect and to hear someone has paid that price for YOU is SO Amazing.'" Come unto me all who labour and heavy laden and I will give you rest" said the Lord. "My yoke is easy and my burden is light."
Bapak could never give me what the true God has given me. Pardon for my sins and ETERNAL LIFE!
What if you really believed Bapak and what he said the latihan was? I mean he said the latihan was from GOD and that he was the FULFILLMENTt of Jesus and Muhammed. Thats a pretty awesome thing to say! I mean when Jesus came and did all those miracles, healing and raising people from the dead and taught that amazing teaching and died and rose again, wouldn't you have believed Him too?
So it's pretty hard for sincere people who don't know anything else. Even if they have problems they just soldier on through. But what about people who can't do that? People who's lives collapse because they can't bear the anguish caused by a lack of the REAL thing.
When you do hear about the REAL thing, it's a real release. When you hear Jesus took it all for you it's a real relief! You know you'll never be perfect and to hear someone has paid that price for YOU is SO Amazing.'" Come unto me all who labour and heavy laden and I will give you rest" said the Lord. "My yoke is easy and my burden is light."
Bapak could never give me what the true God has given me. Pardon for my sins and ETERNAL LIFE!
Friday, July 10, 2009
Coming out of Subud
To all members of Subud and ex-members,
There is HOPE and HEALING for you all . Do not believe that because you are walking away from Subud you are walking away from GOD. That is just not true. The latihan is not what you have been led to believe it is ie. a contact from the TRUE God. The Spirit of the true living God has certain characteristics we can be sure of and if we are IN THE SPIRIT we will exibit these characteristics. LOVE, JOY, PEACE, LONGSUFFERING ,GENTLENESS, MEEKNESS, GOODNESS, FAITH AND SELF-CONTROL. The Spirit of the true God goes far, far deeper than the latihan kedjiwaan and is far, far more powerful than the latihan. Jesus said "I am the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE and NO MAN comes to the FATHER but by ME. There is no other way to God except through JESUS CHRIST.
There is HOPE and HEALING for you all . Do not believe that because you are walking away from Subud you are walking away from GOD. That is just not true. The latihan is not what you have been led to believe it is ie. a contact from the TRUE God. The Spirit of the true living God has certain characteristics we can be sure of and if we are IN THE SPIRIT we will exibit these characteristics. LOVE, JOY, PEACE, LONGSUFFERING ,GENTLENESS, MEEKNESS, GOODNESS, FAITH AND SELF-CONTROL. The Spirit of the true God goes far, far deeper than the latihan kedjiwaan and is far, far more powerful than the latihan. Jesus said "I am the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE and NO MAN comes to the FATHER but by ME. There is no other way to God except through JESUS CHRIST.
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